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 I feel I should apologize for talking about my passion for Supernatural, though I know it's not necessary. I'd rather write about what influences my work than concentrate on my current distraction=writer's block. That being said, I will divulge what's in my head.

Season ten (the upcoming season) will deal with a major character turned demon (yes, that's a bad thing). Spoilers have said that there will be a 'tease' regarding moral dilemmas-'who's the real monster?'  Now said character, Dean, is a good guy. He has many vices, but on the whole, he's always been on the proverbial straight and narrow. Sam, his brother, searches high and low for him when Dean disappears. Along the way, Sam commits a lot of questionable acts (we won't be seeing that, I'm guessing). So the question is put to the audience-is Dean, the demon, the real monster, or Sam?

So all this leaves me wondering why the writers would want to scruff up the good guys' white hats. I understand that often 'perfect=boring'. All happy families are the same, as they say in writer's articles.  And while I know that no one is perfect and that characters should also have a few skeletons in their own closets, it seems more and more that it's fashionable or 'trendy' to smear a good guy through the mud. How bad is bad? How far can the line be pushed before the hero becomes the villain? My question is, is it really even necessary? You want a flawed character? How about Fred Flintstone? How about Bart Simpson? Archie Bunker? Actually, I know less about Bart Simpson and Archie Bunker than I do about Fred Flintstone. Fred was designed to be flawed, but 'loveable'. As I child I thought he was just a complete idiot who flaunted himself as a genius, constantly disappointed his wife and had the dumbest luck keeping his job. He's not exactly the kind of character I'd call a hero.

When Supernatural first came out, the boys (Dean and Sam) were designed as heroes, in spite of their horrible (and questionable) upbringing. As the show accumulated more and more seasons, the story arcs have grown darker and darker. The characters themselves have been -literally and proverbially-through hell. And I will grant that something as traumatic as that has to leave an impact-a deep, unhealed scar, on their souls. Sam has been possessed by a demon and an angel. He suffered in Hell for 160 years. His soulless mind and body committed a few unethical things on Earth because all that was left of Sam (while his soul was trapped in Hell) was the nature of an animal-fright, flight, fight. In Hell, Dean turned demon and enjoyed tormenting people. That aspect of his character has never changed.

So it makes me wonder why the writers feel it so necessary to vilify the characters so that the audience is left to consider who is the real bad guy. It makes me uncomfortable. I understand that well-written characters need flaws. But outright villainy just seems a tad tasteless. It was the very thing that more or less turned me off about the second Star Wars trilogy. It's one thing to watch a bad guy 'rise to the light', but quite another to watch a good guy rot before your eyes. Not only does it leave a bad taste in my mouth, but it leaves me in a state of depression. Isn't there enough bad/evil/mean people in the real world? Why should fiction reflect what already exists? Dwelling on such things is no different than watching the news day after day after day.

As I've mulled over this, I've also been watching "Band of Brothers" (look it up, it'll take to long to explain it here) Now the soldiers in those stories had a job to do. They did their job and had to learn how to be objective about what they did. It was war. And people commit all kinds of acts-good, unsavory, evil... Ad infinitum in war. It too, got me to thinking: maybe it is that the characters in Supernatural aren't superheros, but soldiers. They do what they have to and deal with the consequences. And that kind of makes sense. Otherwise, I'd be looking around every nook and cranny-so to speak-for an excuse for their criminal behavior. Does war excuse them for what they do? Not entirely, no. But now I understand WHY.

And that in and of itself gives me greater room for thought: cause and effect;
cause and effect. It's what drives the character and thereby the story.

Still... there's this part of me that wants a hero, someone to
cheer for; someone that can be dependably good. Does it make a character boring if they are wise (or learn to be), kindhearted, forgiving and merciful? I certainly hope not. That is not to say said character shouldn't have moments when they're so pissed off that they slap someone, or do something irrational. I'm not saying that at all. It's the pre-contemplated acts that make us criminals. We all make mistakes, but we do not need to be criminals-and neither should our fictional good guys.

Nuff said.  :faint:
  • Mood: Confused
  • Listening to: Staind
  • Reading: fanfitction
  • Playing: story scenarios in my head
  • Eating: lunch
  • Drinking: iced tea
 I feel I should apologize for talking about my passion for Supernatural, though I know it's not necessary. I'd rather write about what influences my work than concentrate on my current distraction=writer's block. That being said, I will divulge what's in my head.

Season ten (the upcoming season) will deal with a major character turned demon (yes, that's a bad thing). Spoilers have said that there will be a 'tease' regarding moral dilemmas-'who's the real monster?'  Now said character, Dean, is a good guy. He has many vices, but on the whole, he's always been on the proverbial straight and narrow. Sam, his brother, searches high and low for him when Dean disappears. Along the way, Sam commits a lot of questionable acts (we won't be seeing that, I'm guessing). So the question is put to the audience-is Dean, the demon, the real monster, or Sam?

So all this leaves me wondering why the writers would want to scruff up the good guys' white hats. I understand that often 'perfect=boring'. All happy families are the same, as they say in writer's articles.  And while I know that no one is perfect and that characters should also have a few skeletons in their own closets, it seems more and more that it's fashionable or 'trendy' to smear a good guy through the mud. How bad is bad? How far can the line be pushed before the hero becomes the villain? My question is, is it really even necessary? You want a flawed character? How about Fred Flintstone? How about Bart Simpson? Archie Bunker? Actually, I know less about Bart Simpson and Archie Bunker than I do about Fred Flintstone. Fred was designed to be flawed, but 'loveable'. As I child I thought he was just a complete idiot who flaunted himself as a genius, constantly disappointed his wife and had the dumbest luck keeping his job. He's not exactly the kind of character I'd call a hero.

When Supernatural first came out, the boys (Dean and Sam) were designed as heroes, in spite of their horrible (and questionable) upbringing. As the show accumulated more and more seasons, the story arcs have grown darker and darker. The characters themselves have been -literally and proverbially-through hell. And I will grant that something as traumatic as that has to leave an impact-a deep, unhealed scar, on their souls. Sam has been possessed by a demon and an angel. He suffered in Hell for 160 years. His soulless mind and body committed a few unethical things on Earth because all that was left of Sam (while his soul was trapped in Hell) was the nature of an animal-fright, flight, fight. In Hell, Dean turned demon and enjoyed tormenting people. That aspect of his character has never changed.

So it makes me wonder why the writers feel it so necessary to vilify the characters so that the audience is left to consider who is the real bad guy. It makes me uncomfortable. I understand that well-written characters need flaws. But outright villainy just seems a tad tasteless. It was the very thing that more or less turned me off about the second Star Wars trilogy. It's one thing to watch a bad guy 'rise to the light', but quite another to watch a good guy rot before your eyes. Not only does it leave a bad taste in my mouth, but it leaves me in a state of depression. Isn't there enough bad/evil/mean people in the real world? Why should fiction reflect what already exists? Dwelling on such things is no different than watching the news day after day after day.

As I've mulled over this, I've also been watching "Band of Brothers" (look it up, it'll take to long to explain it here) Now the soldiers in those stories had a job to do. They did their job and had to learn how to be objective about what they did. It was war. And people commit all kinds of acts-good, unsavory, evil... Ad infinitum in war. It too, got me to thinking: maybe it is that the characters in Supernatural aren't superheros, but soldiers. They do what they have to and deal with the consequences. And that kind of makes sense. Otherwise, I'd be looking around every nook and cranny-so to speak-for an excuse for their criminal behavior. Does war excuse them for what they do? Not entirely, no. But now I understand WHY.

And that in and of itself gives me greater room for thought: cause and effect;
cause and effect. It's what drives the character and thereby the story.

Still... there's this part of me that wants a hero, someone to
cheer for; someone that can be dependably good. Does it make a character boring if they are wise (or learn to be), kindhearted, forgiving and merciful? I certainly hope not. That is not to say said character shouldn't have moments when they're so pissed off that they slap someone, or do something irrational. I'm not saying that at all. It's the pre-contemplated acts that make us criminals. We all make mistakes, but we do not need to be criminals-and neither should our fictional good guys.

Nuff said.  :faint:
  • Mood: Confused
  • Listening to: Staind
  • Reading: fanfitction
  • Playing: story scenarios in my head
  • Eating: lunch
  • Drinking: iced tea

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redconvoy Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Happy Birthday! 1st Emoticon: Happy Birthday 
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Koontah Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:D :D :D Thank you! That was very thoughtful!
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redconvoy Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcome :D 
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VixenUnicorn Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013
hi auntie
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Koontah Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi, m'love, I'm sorry I have not gotten back to you. (((((uber hugs))))) :glomp: I've seen your photos and I enjoy how you experiment with them. Such a pretty girl! Are you sure you're her? ;)
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VixenUnicorn Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
lol yes im her i wouldnt take false pictures lol  i miss you so much 
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VixenUnicorn Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
XD hi Tam its me Cheyenne XD
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Koontah Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:glomp: :hug: :turbopoke: :D :D Missing you, Sweetie! I hope you're doing okay!
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DoctorWhoUS Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013
Read this please. Tell me what you think about this an introduction to artists. There will be a link to complete details that they can print out.

I am looking for artists that would like to contribute to our websites. In return your art will be featured at our booth during Comic Con 2014 San Diego with your contact information. (Artist may also elect to have their original art pieces sold at our booth.)
The link for selling your art on DeviantArt will be included in your website submissions.
Contributors to our websites blog entries or art will be eligible to attend all Comic Con conventions as a professional after one year of contributing. Comic Con required that use your real name on blog entries and sign all pieces submitted to the websites.
Click on link to read complete details or you may contact me by email or phone for more information.

To be kind I am not going to add a drawing to this comment.
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Koontah Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
... It took me a moment to realize this is for your website. :) I'd like to suggest you entail what type of artwork you're looking for-and add boundaries for the sake of appropriation. Will those who contribute need to attend the convention itself? And how will you feature the artwork? Will it be on a monitor as part of a slideshow, or will you use hardcopies/prints of the artwork and post them on the booth walls?
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